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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2017 8:48:28 GMT -6
There are 20 scheduled games on the docket through Sunday, beginning tonight. I really only see about 4, maybe 5 HL wins. I truly hope I'm wrong!
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Post by commissioner on Nov 20, 2017 13:18:23 GMT -6
Agreed. Things could still turn around, but from the early sampling of games, it appears the HL will once again be a 1-bid League. UIC should be 4-0, but choked away an 11-point lead against St. Joe's and just didn't show up against Fort Wayne. They don't know how to win yet. Brutal! Only a month left before the RPI's are pretty much set. About 9 games left for our teams to make a move. While Oakland and UIC may have the more athletic teams, NKU is the best coached team. My hope was that the top heavy nature of the league this year--I think OU and NKU are clearly head and shoulders above everyone else--would enable them to put up some gaudy W-L marks and maybe we could sneak a second team into the tournament. But every loss hurts. Oakland losing to Toledo could be a real problem. The Rockets are off to a good start, but they were predicted for the middle of the MAC pack. That could be a bad loss. OU needs to beat someone, and while Kansas and Michigan State would be enormous, they don't seem likely. Tonight may be their best chance, with Syracuse. They play a couple other decent mid-majors, but nobody that will give them a big boost at selection time. NKU has fewer options for a big win. Road games at Memphis this week and Texas A&M next month are their shots. It was important to beat a good mid-major like Vermont on a neutral floor. The game was in the Norse's grasp, and they let it get away. |
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Post by ougrizz05 on Nov 20, 2017 16:33:06 GMT -6
We are a 1 bid league for the foreseeable future
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Post by commissioner on Nov 20, 2017 23:17:59 GMT -6
We are a 1 bid league for the foreseeable future Just don't lose again until the Horizon tournament final, and we'll have two bids.  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2017 23:53:45 GMT -6
We are a 1 bid league for the foreseeable future I hate to agree with this, but starting out this season and with possibly RMU, Fort Wayne and/or other lower mid-majors being added to the HL, your comment seems like a real possibility. |
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Post by HLFanaticus on Nov 21, 2017 0:48:16 GMT -6
 11/21 11 Missouri Valley 14 Mid-American 18 Ohio Valley 19 Summit League 28 HORIZON LEAGUEIndividual HL Team RPI's 46 Oakland 113 Milwaukee 138 Northern Kentucky 239 Cleveland State 305 Detroit Mercy 312 Wright State 314 UIC 326 Youngstown State 335 IUPUI 337 Green Bay |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2017 9:14:31 GMT -6
Wow...an "Ofer" last night (not counting non-D1 wins)! I think a lot of us were hoping for better than this. Granted it's not the end of the world but losing games we feel our teams should win and not closing out teams when we have the lead does not bode well for the Horizon going forward. A one bid League this year seems like a lock!
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Post by ougrizz05 on Nov 21, 2017 11:07:57 GMT -6
We have had 2 different teams loose to D2 schools. I don't think many conferences can say that.
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Post by HLFanaticus on Nov 22, 2017 9:45:23 GMT -6
 7 Missouri Valley 15 Ohio Valley 16 Summit League 20 Mid-American 29 HORIZON LEAGUEIndividual HL Team RPI's 45 Oakland 105 Milwaukee 126 NKU 241 Cleveland State 283 IUPUI 306 Detroit Mercy 316 Wright State 317 UIC 338 Green Bay 347 Youngstown State |
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Post by HLFanaticus on Nov 24, 2017 7:46:02 GMT -6
 6 Missouri Valley 14 Summit League 16 Ohio Valley 23 Mid-American 30 HORIZON LEAGUEIndividual HL Team RPI's 58 Milwaukee 114 Northern Kentucky 119 Oakland 215 Detroit Mercy 251 Cleveland State 263 IUPUI 285 Green Bay 325 Wright State 333 UIC 351 Youngstown State |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2017 9:05:50 GMT -6
Conference play for the HL starts December 28. There are approximately 8 games left for our teams in non-con. That means the next 4 weekends are all this Conference has to move up in the RPI ranks. It doesn't look good.
This past off-season, I have ripped on the MVC, especially in light of them snatching Valpo from us, by saying that with the loss of Wichita State they will become a one-bid League like the HL. The more I watch their teams though, the more I'm inclined to change my position and say that they just might grab a couple spots in the Dance. Northern Iowa just got a nice win over a North Carolina State team. The Valley has only one team with an RPI over 200... and that's one of the teams favored to win it: Loyola! Hell, Bradley and Evansville are winning games! Right now the MVC sits at #6. I can't see them falling no further than 11. Anything can still happen, but the HL has 6 teams over 250 and 3 of those over 300! With 8 games left, our teams will pretty much have to run the table in order to get into the top 15, let alone the top 12! I know that won't happen, but I truly thought we were a better League this season. My fondness for this League blinded me.
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Post by Blackbird on Nov 24, 2017 14:11:15 GMT -6
I know it's too early for RPI to be in any way meaningful, but Youngstown being in dead last (351/351) really leaves an unsettling feeling.
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Post by HLFanaticus on Nov 25, 2017 9:55:06 GMT -6
 5 Missouri Valley 12 Summit League 14 Ohio Valley 20 Mid-American 29 HORIZON LEAGUEIndividual HL Team RPI's 104 Milwaukee 108 Northern Kentucky 144 Oakland 215 Detroit Mercy 256 Green Bay 264 IUPUI 285 Cleveland State 325 Wright State 345 UIC 347 Youngstown State |
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Post by ougrizz05 on Nov 25, 2017 12:30:28 GMT -6
I know it's early, but this will be a tough year for the Horizons RPI.
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Post by HLFanaticus on Nov 26, 2017 7:55:40 GMT -6
 6 Missouri Valley 10 Summit League 12 Western Athletic 16 Mid-American 18 Ohio Valley 30 HORIZON LEAGUEIndividual HL Team RPI's 91 Milwaukee 125 NKU 156 Oakland 197 Detroit Mercy 255 Wright State 261 Green Bay 282 IUPUI 325 Cleveland State 347 UIC 348 Youngstown State This time around I included the WAC (Western Athletic Conference) for 2 reasons: 1) The HL was in talks with New Mexico State and Grand Canyon from this league and 2) To further highlight the plight of the Horizon League in comparison to a Conference which had become the laughing stock of all conferences! |
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