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Post by oklahoma on Feb 28, 2015 0:05:41 GMT -6
Valpo earned the 1st seed and will be hosting. This is the 3rd year out of 4 Valparaiso will be playing host.
UWGB 2nd seed
Oakland 3rd seed
CSU 4th seed
Detroit 5th seed
UIC 6th seed
WSU 7th seed
YSU 8th seed
UWM study hall
First Round: Tuesday, March 3: 1. #8 Youngstown State @ #5 Detroit (7:00 p.m.) 2. #7 Wright State @ #6 UIC (8:00 p.m.)
Second Round Friday, March 6, at Valparaiso: 3. UIC/Wright State v. #3 Oakland (7:00 p.m.) 4. Detroit/YSU v. #4 Cleveland State (9:30 p.m.)
Semi-Finals Saturday, March 7, @ Valparaiso 5. Winner of Game 3 vs. #2 Green Bay (7 p.m.) 6. Winner of Game 4 @ #1 Valparaiso (9:30 p.m.)
Final Tuesday, March 10 Winners of Games 5 and 6 at home of highest remaining seed (7:00 p.m.)
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Post by commissioner on Mar 2, 2015 14:22:25 GMT -6
Valparaiso is 8-0 at home in conference play; Oakland is 8-0; Green Bay and Cleveland are 7-1. Home court matters a lot.
But there are a lot of possibilities. Nobody got through the league unscathed. Cleveland State beat GB twice, and Valpo beat CSU twice, but otherwise they've all beaten each other. And even 5th seeded Detroit has beaten Valpo, Oakland, and CSU, so they know they can beat these teams. Valpo's home court advantage is big, but it is still less than 50/50 that they win even two straight at home against Det/CSU, and then GB/Oakland. Gotta like OU's draw - they'll play UIC or WSU in the second round, and that's darn near as good as a double bye. Green Bay's got the seniors.
For the Horizon as a conference, the best team to win is probably Green Bay, followed closely by Valpo. That would get the best seeding. GB winning the tournament by beating Valpo in the final is better than Valpo winning it by beating GB - GB will end up in that scenario with a higher RPI and two wins - road at Miami, road at Valpo - that are better than Valpo will have if Valpo wins it (Valpo has no win to match Miami, and beating GB in the ARC is not as good as GB beating Valpo in the ARC). Of course, the difference won't much matter - if Valpo is more likely to reach the Sweet 16 from a #13 seed than GB is to reach the Sweet 16 from a 12 seed, then seeding doesn't matter, does it?
Oddly, from the conference standpoint, the best scenario (other than a good seed and winning a round or two by Valpo or GB) would be a win by Detroit. Why? Because Detroit would quite likely be assigned a play-in game, which they could win. And a play-in game counts toward conference shares of the tournament revenue for the next 5 years. In other words, if 16th seeded Detroit beats, say, Charleston Southern in a play in, and then gets creamed by Kentucky, the league would get 2 shares for each of the next five years (for two games), but if Valpo gets seeded 12th and loses by 1 point in overtime, the league will get 1 share, for one game. (Of course, thie play-in scenario would apply to UIC, WSU, or YSU winning the tournament, too, but I just don't see that happening, and they'd be more likely to lose in the play-in). The worst scenario for the conference is probably an Oakland or CSU tournament win, because either probably draws a 15th or non-play-in 16th seed, and goes out in the first round.
Valpo's the safe choice; Green Bay their biggest threat; OU has the nice draw and Kahlil Felder, but I don't think is quite as good overall as CSU; Detroit is the long shot dark horse that is unlikely to win it but dangerous for the higher seeds to play; UIC/WSU/YSU are the no-way it happens, though WSU is getting its starters back from injury and UIC has been playing better of late, and Oakland can't overlook that game in the second round.
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Post by valpo14 on Mar 3, 2015 8:52:08 GMT -6
To me I give Valpo the best chance to win the tourney. They've only lost once at home all season and will be very difficult for anybody to beat. It'll be very interested to see how everything falls. None of the top 5 teams have been successful in the tournament in the past few years.
Other than Vashil, Valpo has seen a complete turnover from 12/13 team. Green Bay has never made it to the finals. CSU, Oakland, and Detroit haven't done much in the tournament in recent years (I guess Detroit 3 years ago but is anybody left??)
Wright State who made it to the finals the last two seasons is god awful and Milwaukee is on their couches.
To me I give Valpo a 40% chance at winning the tournament, they're at home and are very difficult to beat at home Green Bay 20% CSU 15% Oakland 10% Detroit 4.8% Everybody else .2%
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Post by motorcitysam on Mar 4, 2015 11:13:46 GMT -6
To me I give Valpo the best chance to win the tourney. They've only lost once at home all season and will be very difficult for anybody to beat. It'll be very interested to see how everything falls. None of the top 5 teams have been successful in the tournament in the past few years. Other than Vashil, Valpo has seen a complete turnover from 12/13 team. Green Bay has never made it to the finals. CSU, Oakland, and Detroit haven't done much in the tournament in recent years (I guess Detroit 3 years ago but is anybody left??) Wright State who made it to the finals the last two seasons is god awful and Milwaukee is on their couches. To me I give Valpo a 40% chance at winning the tournament, they're at home and are very difficult to beat at home Green Bay 20% CSU 15% Oakland 10% Detroit 4.8% Everybody else .2% That's a solid breakdown. Hard to argue with any of that.
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Post by Blackbird on Mar 4, 2015 21:22:36 GMT -6
To me I give Valpo the best chance to win the tourney. They've only lost once at home all season and will be very difficult for anybody to beat. It'll be very interested to see how everything falls. None of the top 5 teams have been successful in the tournament in the past few years. Other than Vashil, Valpo has seen a complete turnover from 12/13 team. Green Bay has never made it to the finals. CSU, Oakland, and Detroit haven't done much in the tournament in recent years (I guess Detroit 3 years ago but is anybody left??) Wright State who made it to the finals the last two seasons is god awful and Milwaukee is on their couches. To me I give Valpo a 40% chance at winning the tournament, they're at home and are very difficult to beat at home Green Bay 20% CSU 15% Oakland 10% Detroit 4.8% Everybody else .2% 40+20+15+10+4.8+0.2=90 (Is the other 10% a surprise Butler return? Like UIC tears through the tournament and then they tear off their jerseys WWE-style to reveal they're really the Bulldogs? I'd be down with that, though 10% is maybe a little high.)
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Post by commissioner on Mar 5, 2015 7:40:52 GMT -6
If anybody other than Valpo and Oakland wants to get to the NCAAs, they should do it this year, because those two teams are going to be really hard to catch the next couple years.
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Post by valpo14 on Mar 9, 2015 10:35:12 GMT -6
The Green Bay vs Valpo matchup is exactly what the league wanted. Valpo and GB will be a 12/13 seed and both can make a run in the tournament. It should be a great game tomorrow night. I know I'm looking forward to the matchup between the two best HL teams and 2 of the top mid-majors in the country.
Both teams are built to beat a team with a 4/5 seed since neither team is the traditional 3 point shooting mid-major. Valpo is a very good 3 point shooting team but that's not their offense. While GB gets to the rim to score.
As for tomorrow. I'm predicting Valpo will win. They're on their home court where they've lost once all season. E. Victor Nickerson has been able to take Sykes out of the game and Valpo's length gives Sykes issues. Green Bay is gonna need more than Keifer Sykes to win this game. Who will step up?
On the other hand, it looks like Valpo will be without Tevonn Walker, who injured his knee early in the Cleveland State contest. They do have Keith Carter, who missed the first two games against Green Bay recovering from a dislocated toe.
Like I said, I predict Valpo to win but it wouldn't surprise me at all if Green Bay beats Valpo on their floor.
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Post by motorcitysam on Mar 11, 2015 8:59:18 GMT -6
Congrats to Valpo on an impressive win. Good luck in the tournament.
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