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Post by joker on Jan 7, 2015 19:52:35 GMT -6
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Post by motorcitysam on Jan 12, 2015 14:28:42 GMT -6
There was some buzz among the Oakland fans at the Oakland/Detroit game on Saturday about these two additions and Percy Gibson, who will be eligible next season. The Grizzlies are hoping for big things from them next season.
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Post by commissioner on Jan 13, 2015 9:29:16 GMT -6
There was some buzz among the Oakland fans at the Oakland/Detroit game on Saturday about these two additions and Percy Gibson, who will be eligible next season. The Grizzlies are hoping for big things from them next season. Perfectly reasonable for Griz fans to be excited by the prospect. On the other hand, we've seen repeatedly that just because a guy comes from a "power" conference school - that is to say, just because he was really good and highly recruited in High School - doesn't mean he'll excel in the Horizon. At Detroit, Carlton Brundidge (Michigan transfer) has become almost an afterthought on the bench; Brandon Kearney (Michigan State/Arizona State transfer) is a solid rotation player but not a starter; Pat Ackerman (Penn State transfer) is playing 15 minutes or so per game off the bench, and no one is discussing him for the all-conference team. Chris Jenkins (Colorado to Detroit) has played pretty well but the jury is still out, I think. Bobby Capobianco (Indiana) was a solid player for Valpo for a couple seasons, but nothing special; likewise for Mousse Gueye of Valpo (Alabama), who was a presence on defense but not much else and lost his starting spot to their own HS recruit, Vashil Fernandez, who is OK but not an all-conference center or anything. Andre Yates (Creighton) comes off the bench for Cleveland State. A solid pick up, but again nothing special. It seems to me the down-transfers who have real impact in the Horizon were solid to good rotation players at their high majors - guys like Duke Mondy (from Providence to Oakland) and Trey Lewis (Penn State to Cleveland State). One recent transfer who was quite good was LaVonte Dority at Valpo, but he was a) a rotation player, and b) at South Florida, which is really more of a mid-major in basketball. Juwan Howard has been a stud for Detroit after transfering from Western Michigan, but again, that's not the high-major transferring down situation. Going back a couple more years, Eli Holman (Indiana to Detroit) was a good player, but he didn't dominate. If you don't count Dority, as I wouldn't, he was the last high-major down transfer to make all-conference, being a second team selection in 2011. The lesson may be that sitting on the bench at a high-major tells us nothing about your performance at a mid-major. Not pooh-poohing the additions - I'd be excited if Dorsey-Walker and Gibson were coming to Detroit, and wish they were. But neither did much at Iowa State, so that should temper OU fans' expectations. Martez Walker, OTOH, was a very solid player at Texas and in the rotation as a freshman. I'd expect him to be quite good in the Horizon, if he can keep his nose clean.
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Post by motorcitysam on Jan 13, 2015 12:51:44 GMT -6
All good points, Commish. Gibson is a guy I thought was worth a risk, based on his first two seasons at Iowa State where he put up good numbers against mid majors and was in the regular rotation. I think he'll be pretty good at Oakland. Not sure about Dorsey-Walker or Martez Walker. Martez was a guy that I saw as a top HL player when he was in high school, and his first year at Texas didn't make me change my mind about that, but I had no interest in him after his arrest and expulsion from Texas. Dorsey-Walker was a two or three star player in high school, with Rivals really liking him, and he got caught behind better players at Iowa State, despite (or maybe because of) taking a redshirt year. I see him as a rotation guy in the HL.
Transfers are always a crap shoot, and the Oakland trio is not an exception, despite the bragging I heard from the Oakland fan. :-)
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